1 00:00:00,790 --> 00:00:07,570 [Music] 2 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:11,990 hi my name is Reyes uh and I'm a zero 3 00:00:15,950 --> 00:00:13,650 three year grad student at Cal Tech I'll 4 00:00:18,950 --> 00:00:15,960 be starting there in the fall I did most 5 00:00:19,939 --> 00:00:18,960 of this stuff at Columbia um and like 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:19,949 Brandon said I'm going to be talking 7 00:00:22,939 --> 00:00:21,210 about predicting complex organic 8 00:00:25,490 --> 00:00:22,949 molecule emission from the TW hydro 9 00:00:27,290 --> 00:00:25,500 protoplanetary disc which is this eye of 10 00:00:29,810 --> 00:00:27,300 Sauron like thing in the center of the 11 00:00:31,490 --> 00:00:29,820 slide um so that's a lot and I'm going 12 00:00:33,530 --> 00:00:31,500 to try to break this project down into 13 00:00:36,139 --> 00:00:33,540 little pieces so that hopefully you can 14 00:00:39,410 --> 00:00:36,149 take something away from it starting 15 00:00:41,470 --> 00:00:39,420 with this um you know roomful of astro 16 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:41,480 chemists or astrobiologists rather uh 17 00:00:45,860 --> 00:00:43,680 why do you all care about what a 18 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:45,870 protoplanetary disk is well I wrote this 19 00:00:50,060 --> 00:00:47,489 talk before realizing that everyone was 20 00:00:51,139 --> 00:00:50,070 going to talk about this so bear with me 21 00:00:53,990 --> 00:00:51,149 while I go through the introduction 22 00:00:55,910 --> 00:00:54,000 again um but I'm going to try to pay a 23 00:00:56,900 --> 00:00:55,920 little bit more attention to why they 24 00:01:00,560 --> 00:00:56,910 might be asked about logically 25 00:01:02,540 --> 00:01:00,570 significant so as astrobiologists we are 26 00:01:04,700 --> 00:01:02,550 in some way or another all interested in 27 00:01:07,219 --> 00:01:04,710 life in the universe right as we know it 28 00:01:09,410 --> 00:01:07,229 it's a planetary phenomenon we obviously 29 00:01:11,870 --> 00:01:09,420 know about life on Earth we had a great 30 00:01:14,510 --> 00:01:11,880 talk yesterday about habitable zones and 31 00:01:17,690 --> 00:01:14,520 bio signatures on in exoplanetary 32 00:01:19,999 --> 00:01:17,700 systems so our mindset is sort of a 33 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:20,009 planetary one and that brings to light 34 00:01:24,020 --> 00:01:21,210 an interesting question is there 35 00:01:26,810 --> 00:01:24,030 anything inherent within the process of 36 00:01:28,340 --> 00:01:26,820 how these planets form that seeds these 37 00:01:30,679 --> 00:01:28,350 planetary systems with the materials 38 00:01:32,330 --> 00:01:30,689 necessary for life and by materials 39 00:01:34,190 --> 00:01:32,340 necessary for life I mean complex 40 00:01:37,539 --> 00:01:34,200 organic molecules as has been talked 41 00:01:39,649 --> 00:01:37,549 about at length by like everyone else um 42 00:01:41,149 --> 00:01:39,659 so that kind of behooves us to look at 43 00:01:42,590 --> 00:01:41,159 the process of how stars and planets 44 00:01:44,149 --> 00:01:42,600 form and see if there are any 45 00:01:47,270 --> 00:01:44,159 interesting chemical environments that 46 00:01:49,780 --> 00:01:47,280 we can investigate so yeah you've seen 47 00:01:53,539 --> 00:01:49,790 this picture before you start off with a 48 00:01:55,490 --> 00:01:53,549 large cold cloud of gas and dust in the 49 00:01:57,109 --> 00:01:55,500 interstellar medium parts of this cloud 50 00:01:58,459 --> 00:01:57,119 can become over dense and get dense or 51 00:02:00,560 --> 00:01:58,469 denser and hotter and hotter as they 52 00:02:03,469 --> 00:02:00,570 create more material thus forming a baby 53 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:03,479 star or a protostar um but this process 54 00:02:07,850 --> 00:02:05,969 isn't rotationally static um the 55 00:02:09,710 --> 00:02:07,860 accreting material has angular momentum 56 00:02:11,540 --> 00:02:09,720 and so to conserve it what ends up 57 00:02:13,220 --> 00:02:11,550 forming around the protostar is a disk 58 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:13,230 of that same gas and dust called the 59 00:02:16,340 --> 00:02:13,890 proto planet 60 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:16,350 disk and it's so-called because the 61 00:02:20,420 --> 00:02:18,330 material in that disk is what ultimately 62 00:02:24,260 --> 00:02:20,430 ends up being the stuff that forms 63 00:02:26,690 --> 00:02:24,270 planetary systems so in some way you can 64 00:02:28,190 --> 00:02:26,700 kind of think about um the 65 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:28,200 protoplanetary disk is setting the 66 00:02:31,970 --> 00:02:30,570 chemical inventory for the material 67 00:02:33,770 --> 00:02:31,980 available in this form and planetary 68 00:02:36,980 --> 00:02:33,780 system which makes it really interesting 69 00:02:41,210 --> 00:02:36,990 and important to study so let's do that 70 00:02:44,090 --> 00:02:41,220 um before I jump into explaining this 71 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:44,100 cartoon of a disk I want to reiterate 72 00:02:48,470 --> 00:02:46,170 something that's been talked at length 73 00:02:49,730 --> 00:02:48,480 before there's kind of two ways we can 74 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:49,740 think about forming complex organic 75 00:02:53,449 --> 00:02:51,810 molecules one way is in the gas phase 76 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:53,459 where you have you know two body gas 77 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:56,250 phase collisions or another way is on 78 00:03:00,770 --> 00:02:58,050 icy grant surfaces right keep that in 79 00:03:03,260 --> 00:03:00,780 mind and as was mentioned twice before I 80 00:03:05,210 --> 00:03:03,270 think we can't really detect complex 81 00:03:07,370 --> 00:03:05,220 organics in the ice phase unless the 82 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:07,380 source is backlit so we really can only 83 00:03:11,870 --> 00:03:10,650 detect things in the gas phase so with 84 00:03:14,060 --> 00:03:11,880 that in mind let's look at the different 85 00:03:15,350 --> 00:03:14,070 parts of this disc and see where the 86 00:03:17,780 --> 00:03:15,360 complex organic species might be 87 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:17,790 residing so in this sort of red region 88 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:20,010 up here the disc atmosphere is kind of 89 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:21,450 hot so there's not a lot of gas phase 90 00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:23,250 canvas not a lot of ice phase chemistry 91 00:03:26,660 --> 00:03:24,900 happening um and there's a lot of 92 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:26,670 radiation so even if you know complex 93 00:03:31,220 --> 00:03:28,530 organics do form they're oftentimes 94 00:03:33,350 --> 00:03:31,230 broken up by radiation into like 95 00:03:36,830 --> 00:03:33,360 radicals ions other constituent species 96 00:03:40,190 --> 00:03:36,840 so no dice there right so in this blue 97 00:03:41,570 --> 00:03:40,200 region the disc mid plane um it is cold 98 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:41,580 so you do have the ability to make 99 00:03:46,430 --> 00:03:44,610 complex organics on ICE's um but in this 100 00:03:47,870 --> 00:03:46,440 you know cartoon scenario sometimes 101 00:03:49,550 --> 00:03:47,880 there's not enough radiation that comes 102 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:49,560 in and pops those things off of the ices 103 00:03:53,660 --> 00:03:51,930 for us to observe so this is kind of 104 00:03:55,430 --> 00:03:53,670 like you know in this situation a 105 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:55,440 Goldilocks thing right it's up here it's 106 00:03:58,670 --> 00:03:56,850 too hot down here it's too cold so 107 00:04:00,350 --> 00:03:58,680 somewhere in the middle in this yellow 108 00:04:02,180 --> 00:04:00,360 region there's just the right amount of 109 00:04:04,370 --> 00:04:02,190 heat and radiation to have these 110 00:04:06,340 --> 00:04:04,380 molecules form in the ices but come off 111 00:04:08,479 --> 00:04:06,350 into the gas phase for us to observe 112 00:04:10,819 --> 00:04:08,489 that's what's called the molecular layer 113 00:04:13,220 --> 00:04:10,829 of the disk and that's where we expect 114 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:13,230 to find molecules like methanol ch3oh 115 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:17,370 and methyl cyanide CH dcn now I keep 116 00:04:22,039 --> 00:04:20,370 saying um observation of these molecules 117 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:22,049 I want to take a second and talk about 118 00:04:25,010 --> 00:04:23,490 how that actually works I'm not a radio 119 00:04:27,020 --> 00:04:25,020 astronomer but I'll just go through it 120 00:04:27,740 --> 00:04:27,030 quickly how these molecules emit light 121 00:04:31,220 --> 00:04:27,750 which are then 122 00:04:33,410 --> 00:04:31,230 observed by us here on earth so in this 123 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:33,420 obviously cartoon situation imagine a 124 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:34,650 methanol molecule floating out in space 125 00:04:38,990 --> 00:04:36,690 we know the rotation of molecules is 126 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:39,000 quantized it can be excited to a higher 127 00:04:43,670 --> 00:04:41,130 rotational state maybe by collision with 128 00:04:45,650 --> 00:04:43,680 h2 or something it can relax to a lower 129 00:04:47,450 --> 00:04:45,660 rotational state but only if it's 130 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:47,460 accompanied by the release of a photon 131 00:04:50,630 --> 00:04:49,530 at a very specific wavelength and of 132 00:04:52,580 --> 00:04:50,640 course if that wavelength is in the 133 00:04:54,110 --> 00:04:52,590 millimeter/submillimeter regime it can 134 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:54,120 be picked up by Alma well not one 135 00:04:57,020 --> 00:04:56,010 specific photon but you know you can 136 00:04:59,000 --> 00:04:57,030 imagine if this is an astronomical 137 00:05:01,490 --> 00:04:59,010 source you can get enough photons to 138 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:01,500 produce an observable signal so that's 139 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:03,570 kind of how that works but as I said 140 00:05:07,220 --> 00:05:05,370 before this kind of rotational 141 00:05:10,340 --> 00:05:07,230 spectroscopy only works for molecules in 142 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:10,350 the gas phase right um and I mentioned 143 00:05:14,510 --> 00:05:11,730 how a lot of these molecules are thought 144 00:05:16,820 --> 00:05:14,520 to form on ICE's so let's briefly lay 145 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:16,830 out how that happens for one example so 146 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:17,910 this is kind of a picture of how 147 00:05:22,370 --> 00:05:20,490 methanol forms um basically you start 148 00:05:24,350 --> 00:05:22,380 off with the carbon monoxide ice and you 149 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:24,360 keep hydrogenating it and hydrogenating 150 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:25,650 it on the surface until you end up with 151 00:05:28,730 --> 00:05:27,330 methanol the different directions of 152 00:05:30,770 --> 00:05:28,740 arrows suggest that this is not as 153 00:05:33,740 --> 00:05:30,780 simple process as that but for now we 154 00:05:35,540 --> 00:05:33,750 can treat it as it is um but even then 155 00:05:36,290 --> 00:05:35,550 you get methanol on ice right so how do 156 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:36,300 we get it off 157 00:05:39,409 --> 00:05:38,160 one way is thermal desorption if it's 158 00:05:41,630 --> 00:05:39,419 hot enough the methanol can just come 159 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:41,640 off on its own another way is photo 160 00:05:45,950 --> 00:05:43,890 desorption wherein you have an energetic 161 00:05:47,719 --> 00:05:45,960 photon that pops it off that way there's 162 00:05:50,659 --> 00:05:47,729 also reactive desorption which I won't 163 00:05:52,159 --> 00:05:50,669 get too much into but basically yeah 164 00:05:54,020 --> 00:05:52,169 this is kind of the status quo right we 165 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:54,030 have we feel like we have a good idea of 166 00:05:57,740 --> 00:05:55,650 how some of these complex organics are 167 00:06:01,040 --> 00:05:57,750 forming how they come off the grains and 168 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:01,050 how they emit light so putting that all 169 00:06:05,060 --> 00:06:03,090 together if we have all these components 170 00:06:07,159 --> 00:06:05,070 we should be able to build some kind of 171 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:07,169 predictive model for how chemistry 172 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:09,530 occurs in these protoplanetary discs and 173 00:06:13,490 --> 00:06:11,490 that's sort of what i was tasked with 174 00:06:15,409 --> 00:06:13,500 doing is trying to build such a model 175 00:06:17,150 --> 00:06:15,419 for one specific protoplanetary disc 176 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:17,160 namely the one around the pro to start 177 00:06:24,650 --> 00:06:21,090 TW Hydra so let me talk about how I 178 00:06:26,540 --> 00:06:24,660 built that model we started off with a 179 00:06:29,150 --> 00:06:26,550 physical structure that's sort of been 180 00:06:30,950 --> 00:06:29,160 pre calculated by another group um if 181 00:06:33,770 --> 00:06:30,960 you're interested in who did that stuff 182 00:06:35,450 --> 00:06:33,780 come make friends with me later um but 183 00:06:37,420 --> 00:06:35,460 what you're looking at is a radial slice 184 00:06:40,550 --> 00:06:37,430 of the disk so radius on the x-axis 185 00:06:41,399 --> 00:06:40,560 height on the Y and the color scale 186 00:06:43,559 --> 00:06:41,409 represents the 187 00:06:45,169 --> 00:06:43,569 temperature so parameters like gas 188 00:06:47,999 --> 00:06:45,179 temperature dust temperature density 189 00:06:49,769 --> 00:06:48,009 ionization field all sorts of stuff have 190 00:06:51,959 --> 00:06:49,779 basically been pre calculated for us on 191 00:06:55,559 --> 00:06:51,969 this you know cylindrical isometric grid 192 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:55,569 and to this grid we hook on a chemical 193 00:06:59,609 --> 00:06:57,849 model and if you're unfamiliar with how 194 00:07:01,799 --> 00:06:59,619 like rate equation based chemical 195 00:07:03,389 --> 00:07:01,809 modeling works let me like briefly walk 196 00:07:05,850 --> 00:07:03,399 you through that because I'm sure some 197 00:07:07,919 --> 00:07:05,860 people don't know what it is so you have 198 00:07:11,549 --> 00:07:07,929 you know a chemical reaction 199 00:07:13,139 --> 00:07:11,559 X plus y equals Z you can write down the 200 00:07:15,089 --> 00:07:13,149 rate for that reaction as sort of an 201 00:07:16,259 --> 00:07:15,099 ordinary differential equation so the 202 00:07:18,149 --> 00:07:16,269 rate at which Z is formed is 203 00:07:19,979 --> 00:07:18,159 proportional to the concentrations of 204 00:07:22,619 --> 00:07:19,989 the reactants times some kind of rate 205 00:07:25,350 --> 00:07:22,629 coefficient um so people much smarter 206 00:07:28,259 --> 00:07:25,360 than I have compiled enormous databases 207 00:07:30,799 --> 00:07:28,269 of reactions like these in the gas phase 208 00:07:33,809 --> 00:07:30,809 and on ICE's that occur in these sources 209 00:07:35,879 --> 00:07:33,819 and so you can imagine that's a like 210 00:07:37,949 --> 00:07:35,889 ninety four hundred equate equation 211 00:07:40,169 --> 00:07:37,959 strong system of coupled OD es so you 212 00:07:41,759 --> 00:07:40,179 need a computer to solve that and once 213 00:07:43,409 --> 00:07:41,769 you do you get something called like the 214 00:07:45,269 --> 00:07:43,419 chemical evolution as a function of time 215 00:07:46,859 --> 00:07:45,279 so in this case you know you could get 216 00:07:49,679 --> 00:07:46,869 the concentration of Z as a function of 217 00:07:52,919 --> 00:07:49,689 time um so you pick a suitable time to 218 00:07:55,230 --> 00:07:52,929 stop at uh and we do that at each grid 219 00:07:57,029 --> 00:07:55,240 point throughout the disk and doing so 220 00:08:00,290 --> 00:07:57,039 allows us to kind of see the chemical 221 00:08:03,089 --> 00:08:00,300 structure of the disk on a large scale 222 00:08:04,829 --> 00:08:03,099 so what does that look like in practice 223 00:08:07,350 --> 00:08:04,839 I'm sure people don't really care about 224 00:08:09,989 --> 00:08:07,360 the methodology um so in practice this 225 00:08:12,989 --> 00:08:09,999 is what it looks like for methanol again 226 00:08:15,359 --> 00:08:12,999 you're looking at a radial slice of disk 227 00:08:16,739 --> 00:08:15,369 so radius on the X height on the Y and 228 00:08:20,219 --> 00:08:16,749 the color scale is a number density of 229 00:08:21,899 --> 00:08:20,229 methanol um and I've sort of labeled the 230 00:08:24,689 --> 00:08:21,909 kind of different phases in which you 231 00:08:26,689 --> 00:08:24,699 can form gas phase methanol and sort of 232 00:08:29,579 --> 00:08:26,699 the precursors to the gas phase methanol 233 00:08:31,499 --> 00:08:29,589 in parentheses so what do we see here we 234 00:08:33,420 --> 00:08:31,509 see sort of a you know small but 235 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:33,430 significant hot gas reservoir in the 236 00:08:37,170 --> 00:08:35,289 upper disc atmosphere but most of the 237 00:08:39,209 --> 00:08:37,180 methanol scene is becoming you know that 238 00:08:41,219 --> 00:08:39,219 same thing that I was talking about with 239 00:08:42,990 --> 00:08:41,229 things being formed on ice and photo 240 00:08:44,340 --> 00:08:43,000 desorbing or reactively desorbing off of 241 00:08:48,079 --> 00:08:44,350 the ice into the gas phase for us to 242 00:08:50,579 --> 00:08:48,089 observe so great it seems like things 243 00:08:52,740 --> 00:08:50,589 kind of stack up the way we thought they 244 00:08:54,449 --> 00:08:52,750 would right so the next step is taking 245 00:08:55,140 --> 00:08:54,459 the output from this chemical model and 246 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:55,150 running it through 247 00:08:59,430 --> 00:08:56,890 radiative transfer code which I 248 00:09:00,960 --> 00:08:59,440 definitely don't have time to talk about 249 00:09:03,540 --> 00:09:00,970 in detail but you can think of it as a 250 00:09:05,940 --> 00:09:03,550 black body that turns the chemical model 251 00:09:09,060 --> 00:09:05,950 into a synthetic observation comparable 252 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:09,070 to real Alma data so that's what we did 253 00:09:13,290 --> 00:09:11,650 my adviser was involved in observations 254 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:13,300 of methanol on this source like last 255 00:09:19,950 --> 00:09:16,210 year so she gave me data for that and I 256 00:09:21,570 --> 00:09:19,960 compared that with my stuff so what 257 00:09:23,430 --> 00:09:21,580 you're looking at is the disk which is 258 00:09:25,590 --> 00:09:23,440 actually oriented close to face on 259 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:25,600 towards us RA and Dec on the x and y 260 00:09:28,860 --> 00:09:27,010 axis so you looking at position on the 261 00:09:30,780 --> 00:09:28,870 sky don't worry about the color scale 262 00:09:33,150 --> 00:09:30,790 that's like the velocity structure of 263 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:33,160 the disk but the black contours are my 264 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:34,810 synthetic observations and the green 265 00:09:41,220 --> 00:09:37,890 contours are effectively the real 266 00:09:43,170 --> 00:09:41,230 observations that were carried out so 267 00:09:44,580 --> 00:09:43,180 you might be looking at this image and 268 00:09:46,830 --> 00:09:44,590 thinking you know for all this talk 269 00:09:48,660 --> 00:09:46,840 about this like fancy astro chemical 270 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:48,670 model that you may like it seems to do a 271 00:09:56,970 --> 00:09:53,890 pretty bad job and you're right so so 272 00:09:58,830 --> 00:09:56,980 let's let's try to figure out why what's 273 00:10:00,840 --> 00:09:58,840 going on here right the first thing you 274 00:10:02,730 --> 00:10:00,850 might notice is that the sort of green 275 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:02,740 contours aren't really super symmetric 276 00:10:07,260 --> 00:10:05,290 about the origin of the disk um and 277 00:10:09,330 --> 00:10:07,270 according to my adviser who is a radio 278 00:10:11,550 --> 00:10:09,340 astronomer not me who is not um this is 279 00:10:13,740 --> 00:10:11,560 due to low signal-to-noise ratio in the 280 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:13,750 observations so that's not something I 281 00:10:19,050 --> 00:10:17,530 can directly fix the another thing you 282 00:10:21,870 --> 00:10:19,060 might notice is that the black contours 283 00:10:24,450 --> 00:10:21,880 are really extended relative to the 284 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:24,460 green contours um and you know I'll talk 285 00:10:27,030 --> 00:10:26,170 about that in a second the third thing 286 00:10:29,070 --> 00:10:27,040 which you definitely couldn't have 287 00:10:30,450 --> 00:10:29,080 noticed because I had to artificially 288 00:10:32,670 --> 00:10:30,460 inflate this so that the plot would even 289 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:32,680 show up is that the black contours are 290 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:34,570 actually really weak they're about five 291 00:10:37,530 --> 00:10:36,130 times weaker than the observations which 292 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:37,540 Ron Lewis pointed out yesterday are 293 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:39,970 already pretty weak to begin with so 294 00:10:43,380 --> 00:10:41,890 what this means in essence is that 295 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:43,390 there's something missing from the model 296 00:10:47,700 --> 00:10:45,730 that should be producing a more compact 297 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:47,710 more abundant reservoir of methanol than 298 00:10:53,190 --> 00:10:50,290 we're already than we're seeing um and 299 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:53,200 we've been looking into mechanisms to 300 00:10:58,020 --> 00:10:55,450 try and figure out why this might be 301 00:10:59,370 --> 00:10:58,030 happening I have if I have time we'll 302 00:11:01,680 --> 00:10:59,380 talk about at the end if not come make 303 00:11:04,070 --> 00:11:01,690 friends with me at lunch um but for 304 00:11:06,210 --> 00:11:04,080 right now this is kind of the status quo 305 00:11:08,250 --> 00:11:06,220 but we can play the same game for other 306 00:11:09,060 --> 00:11:08,260 complex organics right so we did the 307 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:09,070 same thing for meth 308 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:10,930 cyanide same physical structure same 309 00:11:15,870 --> 00:11:13,930 chemical model etc and this is what the 310 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:15,880 chemical model output looks like for 311 00:11:18,630 --> 00:11:16,810 methyl cyanide 312 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:18,640 and you can see it's like kind of 313 00:11:21,210 --> 00:11:20,530 markedly different than the the methanol 314 00:11:22,830 --> 00:11:21,220 story right 315 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:22,840 whereas with methanol we had a lot of 316 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:24,930 stuff forming on Isis and you know for 317 00:11:30,060 --> 00:11:27,490 Devoto desorbing or reactively desorbing 318 00:11:31,890 --> 00:11:30,070 off of the Isis with methyl cyanide you 319 00:11:34,380 --> 00:11:31,900 see that there's a lot of methyl cyanide 320 00:11:35,700 --> 00:11:34,390 gas up here in the disk atmosphere so 321 00:11:38,100 --> 00:11:35,710 there's a lot of methyl cyanide forming 322 00:11:39,540 --> 00:11:38,110 in the gas phase and this is kind of at 323 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:39,550 odds with that whole like working 324 00:11:43,020 --> 00:11:40,810 hypothesis we had before that 325 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:43,030 observations of these complex organics 326 00:11:47,490 --> 00:11:45,250 are tracing the molecular layer and the 327 00:11:49,050 --> 00:11:47,500 disk ice structure on because in this 328 00:11:50,670 --> 00:11:49,060 case because methyl cyanide has 329 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:50,680 increased gas phase pathways to 330 00:11:55,650 --> 00:11:54,010 formation it might according to our 331 00:11:58,560 --> 00:11:55,660 model and might be tracing the disk 332 00:12:02,010 --> 00:11:58,570 atmosphere more so than the you know 333 00:12:04,710 --> 00:12:02,020 cold gas in the disk molecular layer so 334 00:12:06,570 --> 00:12:04,720 the next step from here would be to you 335 00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:06,580 know compare these two observations but 336 00:12:10,290 --> 00:12:07,510 unfortunately we don't have any 337 00:12:13,380 --> 00:12:10,300 published observations of methyl cyanide 338 00:12:17,310 --> 00:12:13,390 and the source yet um but we also did 339 00:12:19,650 --> 00:12:17,320 some some feasibility things studies to 340 00:12:20,370 --> 00:12:19,660 see if if we could do that with Alma in 341 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:20,380 the next cycle 342 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:22,450 if you're interested in talking to me 343 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:25,600 about that later let come find me um I 344 00:12:30,180 --> 00:12:27,850 also have extra slides for that to 345 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:30,190 5-time but for now I just kind of want 346 00:12:33,810 --> 00:12:32,050 to go back and give a summary what we 347 00:12:35,220 --> 00:12:33,820 talked about so first of all we talked 348 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:35,230 about how protoplanetary discs are 349 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:37,090 important environments because they can 350 00:12:42,150 --> 00:12:39,370 set the chemical inventory for forming 351 00:12:43,770 --> 00:12:42,160 planetary systems we then talked about 352 00:12:47,340 --> 00:12:43,780 how complex organic molecules 353 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:47,350 um can trace uh disk ices in the disk 354 00:12:50,460 --> 00:12:48,970 molecular layer but then we sort of 355 00:12:51,900 --> 00:12:50,470 challenged that by showing the example 356 00:12:54,270 --> 00:12:51,910 of methyl cyanide which might actually 357 00:12:56,430 --> 00:12:54,280 be tracing the disk atmosphere due to 358 00:12:59,300 --> 00:12:56,440 its increased gas phase pathway to 359 00:13:01,650 --> 00:12:59,310 formation that's a mouthful um and 360 00:13:03,540 --> 00:13:01,660 finally we show that even when we do 361 00:13:05,190 --> 00:13:03,550 think complex organics should be tracing 362 00:13:08,190 --> 00:13:05,200 the disk Isis there's an enormous 363 00:13:10,140 --> 00:13:08,200 discrepancy between what our modeling 364 00:13:11,970 --> 00:13:10,150 and what theory says should happen and 365 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:11,980 what the observations observations 366 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:14,050 actually show um which is as of yet 367 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:16,330 unresolved so clearly there's a lot of 368 00:13:20,670 --> 00:13:19,210 work left to be done I have a little bit 369 00:13:22,950 --> 00:13:20,680 of extra extra time actually so I'll 370 00:13:27,570 --> 00:13:22,960 talk a little bit about what we're 371 00:13:31,110 --> 00:13:27,580 what we're looking at for reasons that 372 00:13:32,190 --> 00:13:31,120 this discrepancy might exist so how well 373 00:13:35,850 --> 00:13:32,200 what are ways in which we can produce 374 00:13:37,650 --> 00:13:35,860 compact abundant methanol one way that 375 00:13:39,930 --> 00:13:37,660 we've been considering is called Co 376 00:13:41,610 --> 00:13:39,940 desorption in which you know this 377 00:13:44,820 --> 00:13:41,620 methanol is forming on carbon monoxide 378 00:13:47,010 --> 00:13:44,830 Isis sometimes you know the carbon 379 00:13:48,540 --> 00:13:47,020 monoxide can get the methanol can get 380 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:48,550 caught up in the carbon monoxide and 381 00:13:52,890 --> 00:13:51,490 thus when the carbon monoxide desorbs it 382 00:13:54,770 --> 00:13:52,900 can carry off a little bit of methanol 383 00:13:59,580 --> 00:13:54,780 which is more volatile on these surfaces 384 00:14:01,500 --> 00:13:59,590 and so we thought that this might give 385 00:14:05,730 --> 00:14:01,510 sort of a boost near the carbon monoxide 386 00:14:07,410 --> 00:14:05,740 snowline um unfortunately we've gotten 387 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:07,420 laboratory results back about this 388 00:14:12,780 --> 00:14:08,890 process and it doesn't look like it's 389 00:14:14,550 --> 00:14:12,790 actually a thing so um that's that's one 390 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:14,560 way we were looking at there's other 391 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:16,330 stuff too but I think I'm running out of 392 00:14:28,700 --> 00:14:19,010 time so I will stop there thank you 393 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:32,310 hey really nice talk so you said in your 394 00:14:35,850 --> 00:14:34,330 model you're calculating the you're 395 00:14:38,130 --> 00:14:35,860 running the chemical model for every 396 00:14:39,750 --> 00:14:38,140 individual cell in your model disk is 397 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:39,760 there any crosstalk between the cells 398 00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:42,130 like turbulent mixing or transport or 399 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:43,360 any of that yeah that's a good question 400 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:46,330 no there's no okay um and how do you 401 00:14:50,730 --> 00:14:48,010 think that would affect the the results 402 00:14:53,250 --> 00:14:50,740 so yeah there's the the turbulent mixing 403 00:14:57,270 --> 00:14:53,260 thing one thing that we were thinking it 404 00:14:59,700 --> 00:14:57,280 might do is um like there's a the 405 00:15:01,770 --> 00:14:59,710 vertical turbulence settling that in 406 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:01,780 which like a lot of these species drift 407 00:15:05,070 --> 00:15:03,250 to where it's inwards towards a mid plan 408 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:05,080 so that might be one way in which 409 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:06,370 there's also like the inward radial 410 00:15:09,510 --> 00:15:07,930 drift of the dust grains to consider 411 00:15:11,700 --> 00:15:09,520 that's actually one of the other things 412 00:15:14,820 --> 00:15:11,710 we're considering is radial drift but we 413 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:14,830 haven't done it yet I should say so stay 414 00:15:31,290 --> 00:15:26,820 great talk um if you go back to the 415 00:15:33,030 --> 00:15:31,300 plots of the methanol abundance you plot 416 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:33,040 that as absolute abundance is that both 417 00:15:38,340 --> 00:15:36,130 gas phase and a surface no it's just gas 418 00:15:40,860 --> 00:15:38,350 it it's just gas phase okay yeah so then 419 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:40,870 the the hot component up there what is 420 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:42,370 the pathway that's producing that 421 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:44,530 because methanol can only form through 422 00:15:49,890 --> 00:15:46,510 grain surface processes right so is that 423 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:49,900 just through transient sorption and 424 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:51,610 desorption off of grain surfaces up 425 00:15:57,900 --> 00:15:54,250 there or yeah it's a lot of that and 426 00:15:58,950 --> 00:15:57,910 there's a lot of like so when we were 427 00:16:00,720 --> 00:15:58,960 looking at this there were a lot of 428 00:16:02,850 --> 00:16:00,730 other gas phase processes that will 429 00:16:04,860 --> 00:16:02,860 honestly look kind of suss um and it's 430 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:04,870 because I don't think the the chemical 431 00:16:08,430 --> 00:16:06,610 Network is super complete at high 432 00:16:12,930 --> 00:16:08,440 temperatures the high temperatures that 433 00:16:18,330 --> 00:16:12,940 are uh sort of in that kind of region so 434 00:16:20,450 --> 00:16:18,340 okay great yeah astro chemists aren't 435 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:20,460 scary I promise 436 00:16:28,310 --> 00:16:24,570 all right I got one so how how 437 00:16:30,910 --> 00:16:28,320 representative is say the hot core phase 438 00:16:33,770 --> 00:16:30,920 after you run it through the 439 00:16:35,450 --> 00:16:33,780 protoplanetary disk phase how much if I 440 00:16:37,070 --> 00:16:35,460 if I knew the abundance in a hot core 441 00:16:39,830 --> 00:16:37,080 phase and then I ran it through a disk 442 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:39,840 how badly does the disk scramble the 443 00:16:46,070 --> 00:16:42,890 chemistry that is a really good question 444 00:16:50,210 --> 00:16:46,080 for which I don't have a really good 445 00:16:52,940 --> 00:16:50,220 answer um I think there's evidence that 446 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:52,950 it does scramble the chemistry some but 447 00:16:56,630 --> 00:16:55,170 not all I think you know there are 448 00:16:58,820 --> 00:16:56,640 people that have shown that a lot of 449 00:17:01,100 --> 00:16:58,830 water is inherited directly from like 450 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:01,110 the cloud the initial cloud but we 451 00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:02,970 assume for our initial conditions here 452 00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:06,000 is we take a dark cloud model run it to 453 00:17:10,670 --> 00:17:08,160 an appropriate time and then assume that 454 00:17:11,300 --> 00:17:10,680 the disk inherits Isis from the dark 455 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:11,310 cloud model 456 00:17:15,079 --> 00:17:13,290 um which is obviously not the most 457 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:15,089 accurate thing to do but if you have a 458 00:17:23,449 --> 00:17:20,970 better solution please let me know ok 459 00:17:24,230 --> 00:17:23,459 any more questions then let's thank the 460 00:17:27,140 --> 00:17:24,240 speaker again 461 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:27,150 [Applause]